Saturday, July 31, 2010

A Taste of American Debate and Discussion

A Taste of American Debate and Discussion



Newt Gingrich Statement on the Proposed “Cordoba House” Mosque near Ground Zero

July 21, 2010 6pm



Read Newt’s expanded newsletter on the danger of radical Islamism, sharia in the United States, and the ground zero mosque.


There should be no mosque near Ground Zero in New York so long as there are no churches or synagogues in Saudi Arabia. The time for double standards that allow Islamists to behave aggressively toward us while they demand our weakness and submission is over.


The proposed "Cordoba House" overlooking the World Trade Center site – where a group of jihadists killed over 3000 Americans and destroyed one of our most famous landmarks - is a test of the timidity, passivity and historic ignorance of American elites. For example, most of them don’t understand that “Cordoba House” is a deliberately insulting term. It refers to Cordoba, Spain – the capital of Muslim conquerors who symbolized their victory over the Christian Spaniards by transforming a church there into the world’s third-largest mosque complex.


Today, some of the Mosque’s backers insist this term is being used to "symbolize interfaith cooperation" when, in fact, every Islamist in the world recognizes Cordoba as a symbol of Islamic conquest. It is a sign of their contempt for Americans and their confidence in our historic ignorance that they would deliberately insult us this way.


Those Islamists and their apologists who argue for "religious toleration" are arrogantly dishonest. They ignore the fact that more than 100 mosques already exist in New York City. Meanwhile, there are no churches or synagogues in all of Saudi Arabia. In fact no Christian or Jew can even enter Mecca.


And they lecture us about tolerance.


If the people behind the Cordoba House were serious about religious toleration, they would be imploring the Saudis, as fellow Muslims, to immediately open up Mecca to all and immediately announce their intention to allow non-Muslim houses of worship in the Kingdom. They should be asked by the news media if they would be willing to lead such a campaign.


We have not been able to rebuild the World Trade Center in nine years. Now we are being told a 13 story, $100 million megamosque will be built within a year overlooking the site of the most devastating surprise attack in American history.


Finally where is the money coming from? The people behind the Cordoba House refuse to reveal all their funding sources.


America is experiencing an Islamist cultural-political offensive designed to undermine and destroy our civilization. Sadly, too many of our elites are the willing apologists for those who would destroy them if they could.


No mosque.


No self deception.


No surrender.


The time to take a stand is now - at this site on this issue.

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Source: Newt Gingrich Statement on the Proposed “Cordoba House” Mosque near Ground Zero


Out of 462 comments I am appending a few exchanges with me due to shortage of space. I do not know whether I should cry or laugh at the Americans?!




Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png4 days ago in reply to JillMI


The misguided and ill motivated crusaders maimed and murdered many Christians and Muslims. Today, they are also conducting their modern day crusade with totally false and fabricated reasons and grounds.


In this instance, they are using the CIA pin up boy Osama bin laden to demonise, torture and terrorise Muslims all over the world! Therefore, it becomes a must to ask these valid questions.


Sadly, they are also sending their own children to die for Israel!!



(Who Invented) Osama bin Laden to Slaughter the Arabs and Muslims


Bin Laden used t be `morally equivalent of American founding fathers'! Osama used to be the pin up boy of the corporate governments!! Secular and nationalists movements around the world used to be enemies of USA and religious extremists were invented and funded by USA, UK and other entities.


One day, the American Terrorist Leader Bush was playing with Billy the goat and we found out about the so called 9/11. All planes of USA were grounded except those ones escorting the precious Bin Laden clans to safe heavens!



Steel structured concrete buildings of Twin Towers melted like volcanic lava. Yet, the passport of the ring leader Mohammad Atta flew into the FBI desk!


Anyway, none of those so called hijackers were originated from Afghanistan. Yet, Afghanistan was attacked and ruined due to pipe line dream and opium trade. Iraq had nothing to do with Bin Laden or 9/11! Yet, the Illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq is well-known as Iraq: A War For Israel and Iraq pullout would hurt Israel but totally ignored by the compliant media and establishments.

In short they are running a crusade! They are using Bin Laden as a reason. Their modern day Inquisition, Conquistador and Crusade are much more brutal and vitriolic than old ones! Therefore it becomes a must to ask the following questions:
1. Who have elected Osama bin Laden as the leader of the Muslim world?
2. Since when and under what authority Osama bin Laden became spokes person or the undisputed leader of the Muslim and Arab world?
3. Since when and under what authority Osama bin Laden became `Pope' of the Arab and Muslim world?
4. Why Muslims and Arabs have to be guilty of alleged crimes of Osama bin Laden?
5. Who are behind these deadly games and why?
Source:
http://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/osam...

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Sledge_hammer http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png16 hours ago in reply to Faruque Ahmed


YOU are the type of person Newt is talking aboutk, Farooq. We are ON to you. you better be careful before people figure out your IP address...

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png49 minutes ago in reply to Sledge_hammer


Thank you for your suggestions. I welcome you, Newt Gingrich or any American leaders to debate and discuss any issues with me in any open forum without any fear or favor.

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png4 days ago in reply to guest


The misguided and ill motivated crusaders maimed and murdered many Christians and Muslims. Today, they are also conducting their modern day crusade with totally false and fabricated reasons and grounds.


In this instance, they are using the CIA pin up boy Osama bin laden to demonise, torture and terrorise Muslims all over the world! Therefore, it becomes a must to ask these valid questions.


Sadly, they are also sending their own children to die for Israel and conducting war crimes and genocides in Iraq and Afghanistan!!



USA Must Quit Afghanistan Now


Salman Rushdie, Bin Laden, Ershad Manji, Ayaan Hirshi Ali, Norma Khouri, 50% Mosque Spaces For Women, Tanvir Ahmed, 72 Virgins to Nothing, Muslim Women Priests, Actual Australian Muslim Virgin, Meal Ticket in Germany, Monica Ali, Burqa, Bushfire, Dog, … all are carefully crafted and nurtured "accelerants" to create bushfires around the world between various sex, race, religion and people. Corporate governments of USA and Europe used to aid and abet religious extremists to counter nationalist secular movements around the world!

The Taliban and al-Qaida are a few groups biting them back and they do not have any relationship between any race and religion.


On September 27, 2001, the FBI released photos of the 19 hijackers, along with information about the possible nationalities and aliases of many.[85] Fifteen of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, two from the United Arab Emirates, one from Egypt (Atta), and one from Lebanon.[86]


15 of the alleged 19 “hijackers” were from US backed Saudi Arabia and none from Afghanistan!

On October 7, the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan offered to "detain bin Laden and try him under Islamic law" if the United States made a formal request and presented the Taliban with evidence. The U.S. rejected this offer as insufficient.[41]


On October 14 the Taliban offered to discuss handing over Osama bin Laden to a neutral country in return for a bombing halt, but only if the Taliban were given evidence of Bin Laden's involvement.[46] The U.S. rejected this offer as a public relations ploy and continued military operations.


However, ten years of maiming and murdering innocent civilians, destroying nature and environment due to congenital prejudice and bigotry of the Zionised and robotic Americans, today, almost everyone have turned against them!


Therefore, the Americans must quit Afghanistan with proper apology and compensation without any delay whatsoever.

The abject failure of USA in Afghanistan from the beginning to end are due to a series of monumental failures of US strategies, tactics and arrogance impregnated with prejudice and bigotry. No one can blame any race or religion for their own wrong deeds!



Faruque Ahmed
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Source:
http://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/usa-...

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Sledge_hammer http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png16 hours ago in reply to Faruque Ahmed


Screw you, Faruq, it's assholes like you that motivate us. Don't blame everything on the USA. Fancy you writing from your little cushy cubby hole in Australia while jerkoffs in Afghanistan are blowing American heads off and raping their own women.

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png37 minutes ago in reply to Sledge_hammer

I hope you Americans are mature enough to conduct a debate without insanity and profanity!

The resource based and Israel oriented illegal invasion of Afghanistan has nothing to do with the so called 9/11 as neither those hijackers were from Afghanistan nor trained in that land.


It is also disgusting and shameful because 160 000 elite and well equipped military machines (mercenaries?) are fighting 100 Taliban! The reality is that the built in prejudice and bigotry against Muslims and barbaric rage which resulted in 95% civilian causalities in Afghanistan and Iraq are defeating US thugs and they are digging their own graves. You can’t balm any race or religion apart from your own insanity and profanity.

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png4 days ago in reply to Lynnmt61958


The misguided and ill motivated crusaders maimed and murdered many Christians and Muslims. Today, they are also conducting their modern day crusade with totally false and fabricated reasons and grounds.


In this instance, they are using the CIA pin up boy Osama bin laden to demonise, torture and terrorise Muslims all over the world! Therefore, it becomes a must to ask these valid questions.



Osama bin Laden! Guilty or Innocent?



In any civilized society each and everyone is innocent until and unless proven guilty or otherwise.


Now, could you kindly let me knew, which court, judge or jury have convicted Osama bin Laden of any crime; let alone terrorism?


Please do not bog down about the so called confession as we have many innocents in the US prison due to "confession" and many of them were cleared by the higher technology and courts.


Most importantly, the brilliant CIA and FBI were so desperate about Osama bin laden! It is not funny!! They have to doctor a photograph of a Spanish politician to make it look like bin Laden!!!


It is sickening.


On the other hand, the case against CIA, FBI and Israel are overwhelming. Many 9/11 Investigations and Reports are smelly.


So, at the end do not forget the word, "beyond reasonable doubt". I say so while I do not like people like bin Laden.


Source:
http://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/osam...

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png1 week ago in reply to Scott Crevier

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Saudi Arabia is not Islam but the holy Quran is.


Foundations of Spiritual and Human Equity in Islam:


In the midst of the darkness that engulfed the world, the divine revelation echoed in the wide desert of Arabia in the seventh Century with a fresh, noble, and universal message to humanity, described below.
(1) According to the Holy Quran, men and women have the same human spiritual nature:
O mankind, fear your Lord, who created you from one soul and created from it its mate and dispersed from both of them many men and women... (Quran, 4:1, see also 7:189, 42:11, 16:72, 32:9, and 15:29).

(2) God has invested both genders with inherent dignity and has made men and women, collectively, the trustees of God on earth (see the Quran 17:70 and 2:30).
(3) The Quran does not blame woman for the “fall of man,” nor does it view pregnancy and childbirth as punishments for “eating from the forbidden tree.” On the contrary, the Quran depicts Adam and Eve as equally responsible for their sin in the Garden, never singling out Eve for blame. Both repented, and both were forgiven (see the Quran 2:36-37 and 7:19-27). In fact, in one verse (Quran 20:121) Adam specifically was blamed. The Quran also esteems pregnancy and childbirth as sufficient reasons for the love and respect due to mothers from their children (Quran 31:14 and 46:15).

(4) Men and women have the same religious and moral duties and responsibilities. Each human being shall face the consequences of his or her deeds: And their Lord responded to them (saying): Never will I allow to be lost the work of (any) worker among you, whether male or female; you are of one another... (Quran, 3:195, see also 74:38, 16:97, 4:124, 33:35, and 57:12).
(5) The Quran is quite clear about the issue of the claimed superiority or inferiority of any human, male or female. The sole basis for superiority of any person over another is piety and righteousness not gender, color, or nationality (see the Quran 49:13).

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Allinson http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png6 days ago in reply to Faruque Ahmed


Faruque's quotes are the smokescreen that is Islam - one day at a Sharia tribunal and all will become evident! Islam/Sharia Law rules from North Africa to Malaysia - a Neanderthal 8th century reality for over 2 billion, the goal of Osama bin Laden realized as Karzai imposed Sharia Law of Afghanistan's Shiite women last year. Aayan Hirsi Ali and Zaki Ameen have done the work to instruct the West in the true intent of Islam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali & http://www.myspear.org/ Suggest read this stuff, get educated on the mayhem that is yet to come, courtesy of Islam!

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png1 day ago in reply to Allinson


Ayaan Hirshi Ali found her water bed by lying against Muslims and the Zio-Nazis are using her now while the Dutch discovered that she is a liability!




Who really needs “protection” – Ali or her critics?


Sunday 3rd June 2007, I went to the City Recital Hall and politely started to distribute my leaflet, "THE POLITICS OF ARAB AND MUSLIM BASHING" outside the $35 per person lecture.


Within ten minutes a police officer amongst the approximately twenty strong contingent, courteously asked me to provide him a copy of my leaflet. He read the item and then placed it in his hip pocket. Soon after most of the security guards present asked me for a copy of the same material and I made it available to them. Almost all of those security guards had a very polite exchange with me regarding Ayaan Hirshi Ali. At the outset, it appeared a common sense approach by those police officers and guards, their interaction with me was an example of the Aussie ‘fair go’ attitude at work. But, the ‘boss’ from inside the hall started to put pressure on the security guards to be nasty and forceful with me. The police officers did not intervene as I was not in breach of any law. The embarrassed leader of the private security said, "Mate, you are breaching the peace here – I have to ask you to move". My startled response was, "You know I don't believe in violence and I have not done anything to incite violence, therefore you must not accuse me of such fictitious grounds”. He then said, "Your materials are offending some people inside and they are getting very hot under their collars – they might attack you". I responded by saying, "That would be their problem and how come they are unable to accept any fair criticism and are threatening ME with violence?"



The embarrassed, yet reasonable security guy who by no means would be risking his security licence to be a paid thug or anyone’s hired, violent stooge. He said, "Look just move fifty meters from the hall and you will be fine". I said, "I don't have to move, but, for the sake of peace I will walk an extra mile".



However, during the period I was leafleting there, I observed that there were a few different types of people attending the lecture. One group refuses to know you if you do not look like them and walked straight past me. Another group treats words like ‘Arab’ or ‘Muslim’ which were in my leaflet like poison! This second grouping like the first refuse to get involved or to even acknowledge you. The third grouping are in between – they are struggling to find their positions.


One over excited, blustering, middle-aged woman said to me, "Your materials are wrong". I replied, "Why"? She then said, "Look, UTS Professor Jamila Hussain is wrong and it is a fact (that she’s wrong)". She attempted to support her opinion by pointing out Professor Jamila's quote that I had used in that same leaflet. I responded to her, "You are presenting your opinion only and it’s not a `fact' to dismiss my materials. I myself regard Professor Jamila Hussain’s statement here as valid". She roared at me in frustration, "Are you calling me a liar?" I said, "Why are you so militant in nature and how come you are not presenting your argument in a logical manner?" She then continued in her provoking way, "Are you one of those killers who are hunting for her"? I replied, "You are reminding me of those brave child killer Israelis who have been murdering unarmed Palestinian children in their kindergartens, schoolyards and backyards with machine guns, apache helicopters and F18s."



Another cranky, flustered old woman approached me too. The security guards found her exchange with me hilarious and said to me later, "Is she your first critic"?


She begun with, “I am a Dutch, I know everything and you know nothing. Are you Australian? Where do you come from? She (Ayaan) is educated. She will fix violent Muslims". With a giggle I said, "That's why your good friends are supporting and financing her. They will dump her after her ‘use by date’ – you watch". She continued, "You should not be allowed to talk in this country – you should be banned."



The irony here is that the security asked me to move because they feared for my safety. In reality, we need protection from the supporters of Ayaan and not the other way around, where as the entire tour of Ayaan is claimed to be based on her needing around-the-clock security!



Is this a case of “violence begets violence” or more precisely, does it confirm my point that the financial backers of Ali are using her to disguise their own violence against Muslims and Muslim countries around the world?



During the initial stages of reporting of Ali by the Australian media the articles were balanced and they also quoted a number of local Muslims who were critical of Ayaan’s blanket condemnation of Islam based on her incorrect stand and faulty reasoning.


After a couple of days of her appearance in Australia the screws were turned, the clear bias emerged and her monologues were selectively used to create deliberate confusion, uproar and cause injury to the Islamic community.



Surely, the Sydney Writers Festival should be about dialogues and robust discussions. That was the reason I distributed my flyer to generate open and fair debate. In the current atmosphere in Australia it would appear the only dialogue possible now is via the internet and not out in the open in real life.



Are Ayaan Hirshi Ali, Ershad Manji, Norma Khoury and a few more confused, yet conveniently compliant soles being used as a distraction away from many burning issues one of which is the longest running concentration camp known to mankind, located in the occupied Palestine? Because, this slow motion Israeli holocaust in Palestine is much more painful than the former one!


Source:
http://sydneywritersfestival.blogspot.com/2007/...

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Allinson http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png1 day ago in reply to Faruque Ahmed


Aayan Hirsi Ali is under death fatwa. Her friend and director of 'Submission' was murdered by an Islamist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6bFR4_Ppk8 Salmon Rushdie is still under death fatwa courtesy the worst of the worst: Khomeini. The best the Islamists can come up with is intimidation: death for apostasy, death for speaking out - simply patently ignorant Neanderthals acting in the name of God (sic). Truly worthless people! What other comment is necessary?




Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png1 week ago

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Muslims have every right to construct anything anywhere. Trial by media must be condemned and stopped.

7% US terrorism coming from Jews and no one knows them!

Muslim population is 1.5 billion and Jewish is only a few million! According to official documents only 6% Muslims are involved in US terrorism and 7% US terrorism coming from Jews. Yet everyone think the Jews are saints!!! Surely, this must be the outcome of deliberate vendetta against Muslims by the 96% Zionist controlled/operated media.

Most importantly, the Muslims did not conspire to murder Jesus!

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GOOD http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png1 week ago in reply to Faruque Ahmed


You lost your right on 9/11. Why don't you enlighten us with some facts about the 7% Jewish terror Ahmed...dinijad?

The real fact of the matter is that there are only about 15-18 million Jews in the world compared to 1.5 billion Muslims and the Jews are contributing endless times more to the good of the world than Muslims.

That's a fact Ahmed.

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Drr http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png1 week ago in reply to Faruque Ahmed


Faruuque,

No, Muslims do not have the right to construct anything anywhere. You are ill informed. Trial by media does not exist in the USA and, again, you show your ignorance. The freedom to exchange ideas and argue - even in the Media - is a constitutional right in America. While this freedom may be a difficult concept for some Islamic elements, it is not a burden to Americans.


No one knows of the 7% of Terrorism coming from Jews, because it does not exist. Back up your claim and quote your sources. Anyone can make an accusation.


"96%" of the Media is controlled/operated by Socialists, not Zionists... and they are overwhelmingly sympathetic to Islam.


What does the Crucifixtion of Christ have to do with anything??? Jesus was a Jew. He was the Son of God. He died. He rose again, acended into Heaven, and sat at the right hand of God. Jesus is victorious. The mountains shall pass away before Israel does.

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png1 week ago in reply to Drr



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Europol Report: All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that Aren't
http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&q=Europol+Repor...

All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 94% that Aren't
http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&q=All+Terrorist...


RAND report: Threat of homegrown jihadism exaggerated, Zero U.S. civilians killed since 9/11

http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&&sa=X&ei=j7RKTK...

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png1 week ago in reply to Drr

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Europol Report: All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that Aren't
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-e...

All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 94% that Aren't
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terror...

RAND report: Threat of homegrown jihadism exaggerated, Zero U.S. civilians killed since 9/11
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/05/rand-report-th...

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GOOD http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png3 days ago in reply to Faruque Ahmed

Loonwatch is your source? Do you know what loon means in English? Next you'll come with evidence from the Looney tunes.


By the way, Loonwatch is talking about a reduction in Muslim terror and the reason for that is that the terrorists are being annihilated in Afghanistan and Iraq, otherwise I'm sure they'll do their best to murder more of us here in the US and Europe.


As it comes to the Jews, you loon, they run circles around all 1.5 billion of you Muslims. I know it hurts but it is also a fact.

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png2 days ago in reply to GOOD


“Loonwatch” is watching loonies! Look at the loonies! The Americans are sending their own children to die for Israel!!!



Cheney: Iraq pullout would hurt Israel | JTA - Jewish & Israel News
http://www.jta.org/news/article/2007/03/25/1008...

Iraq: A War For Israel.
http://www.ihr.org/news/040716_hollings.shtml

Illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq
http://www.cjd.org/paper/surlis.html

Peace.

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png5 days ago in reply to Drr

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Let's have tongue and chick here!

If Jesus is so powerful then why can't he protect himself from the Jewish conspiracy? If Jesus was a Jew then why did the Jews conspire to murder him? Again, if Jesus is a Jew then who is right? The Jews or the Christians!? I mean which one is the right religion?

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Ruth http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png5 days ago in reply to Faruque Ahmed


If you would like to know more about Jesus and the Jews, here are two passages for you to consider.
Matthew 20:18,19 (Summary) The chief priests condemned Yeshua, the Gentiles killed him, and please notice that God raised him from the dead. He is the Savior: He died to save us from our sins.
Luke 23:34 (Yeshua, praying from the cross) "Father, forgive them; they do not know what they are doing."

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png1 day ago in reply to Ruth


Let’s take your line of logic for a while! The Jews conspired to murder Jesus Christ and became part of “Judeo-Christian culture?”! Now, do Muslims have to conspire to murder more Christians to become part of the “Islamo-Christian culture”?


What is a Judeo-Christian culture?


The Jews do not accept Jesus as Messiah!


Christians also view him as the Messiah foretold in the Old Testament; however, Judaism rejects these claims. Islam considers Jesus a prophet and also the Messiah[4] while several other religions revere him in some way.


Judaism's view of Jesus does not give us an iota of evidence in support of Judeo-Christian culture!


The belief that Jesus is God, a person of the Trinity, the Messiah, or a prophet of God are incompatible with traditional Jewish tenets. The idea of the Jewish Messiah is different from the Christian Christ because Jews believe Jesus did not fulfill Jewish Messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the Messiah.[6] Authoritative texts of Judaism reject Jesus as God, Divine Being, intermediary between humans and God, Messiah or saint.


The belief in the Trinity, as with many other central Christian doctrines,[7] is also held to be incompatible with Judaism.


The New Testament is clear in teaching that the Jews murdered Jesus. It states this explicitly and repeatedly, in different settings, and in various ways. It states that the Jews intended to kill Jesus, that they plotted to kill Jesus, that they tried to kill Jesus, that they would kill Jesus, and that they did kill Jesus. Here Paul writes, "the Jews…killed the Lord Jesus" (v. 15) – a direct, concise, and explicit statement that the Jews murdered Jesus. This fact receives repeated emphasis in the preaching of the apostles, whether they are addressing Jews, or whether they are addressing Gentiles, as in this letter to the Thessalonians.


What World-famous Men have said About the Jews and above statements clearly demonstrate that the Jews conspired to murder Jesus at Jerusalem and later his brother James at Rome. On the other hand the Muslims respect Jesus and his mother Marry.


Therefore dreaming and falsely engineering a romantic relation between the Jews and Christians does not stand. So is the notion of Judeo-Christian culture.


Source: What is a Judeo-Christian culture?
http://enslavedusaukandaustralia.blogspot.com/2...

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png1 week ago in reply to Larry

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Do you like to check out with historical records and you may find otherwise.

Umar was shocked to find the site covered in rubbish, as the Romans had initiated the custom of using it as a dung heap. 'Umar knelt down immediately, and began to clear the area with his hands. When the Muslims saw what he was doing, they followed his example, and soon the entire area of al-Aqsa, approximately 35 acres (14 ha), was cleaned up.[citation needed] Thereafter, commissioned the construction of a wooden mosque on the southern end of the site, exactly where the present-day mosque of Al-Aqsa stands.


'Umar was then led to the sites of the Foundation Stone by a rabbi, Ka'ab al-Ahbar, who had converted to Islam and was his closest advisor. The rock was surrounded by a fence, and several years later an Umayyad Caliph, Abd al-Malik, built the Dome of the Rock over the site. Under Ka'ab's influence upon Umar, the Jews enjoyed great freedoms during Umar's caliphate in comparison with the Christians, and other religious groups.


Upon taking Jerusalem, 'Umar demonstrated the utmost respect for members of the other faiths living in the city. According to the Encyclopaedia Judaica, seventy Jewish families took up residence in the city. 'Umar also agreed to several pacts, called the Covenant of Omar, with the local Christian population, determining their rights and obligations under Muslim rule.[5]


Al Aqsa and Temple Mount
http://cyberterrorism-unionfaruque.blogspot.com...

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GOOD http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png3 days ago in reply to Faruque Ahmed


The Muslims shouldn't have stayed there in the first place. Jerusalem is not their city so they had no right to treat the Jews in any other way than respect.


Also, how is it respectful to build a Mosque on top of the most sacred place for the Jews? If they had any respect for the Jews they would have left Jerusalem and let the Jews rebuild their Temple where it belongs.

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png2 days ago in reply to GOOD


Are We Allowed to Ask Do You Know Who Is a True Jew?



If you got an open mind then I have got news for you!


According to Jewish, Christian and Muslim documents true Jews do not exist!


Do you know what are they? Are they following some cults other than Judaism?


When Moses went to free the Jews from the Pharaohs captivity, he was scared of Egyptian magic (similar to US high tech?). God said to Moses, “don’t be afraid, throw your stick and witness your God’s power”. ……… .


Moses convinced the Pharaoh and freed his people! Moses parted the Arabian Sea and freed the Jews from slavery. Then Moses went to speak to God and thank him for saving his people. God said to Moses, “do you know what are your people doing”? Moses said, “they are praying for you”.

God said, “go and find out”.


Moses went to his people and found, only his brother Aaron and a couple of people were following him and the rest of them were drinking, gambling, fornicating, praying to golden sheaf, ….

Now, please tell me who is a real Jew? I say so despite the fact that I am willing to respect all religion and tolerant to all cultural sensitivities.


Source: Do You Know Who Is a True Jew?
http://thecowsorjews.blogspot.com/2009/11/do-yo...

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png1 week ago in reply to Wayne Hunnicutt

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Do you have any evidence in support of or anyone you know to substantiate the fact that a Muslims came to any one and said, “I would like to kill you because you are not a Muslim”? Please bring forward any evidence from anyone, whether they are dead or alive!! Alternately, please accept the truth and reject unsubstantiated propaganda.

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GOOD http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png3 days ago in reply to Faruque Ahmed


Look at the charters of Hamas and PLO.
That was easy.

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png1 day ago in reply to GOOD


Please start with this one!


Do You Think The Palestinians Are Terrorists? A Palestinian kid who is playing in his/her mums cradle, backyard, schoolyard, … is a terrorist.


People who are racing from all over the world to the holy land and terrorising the Palestinians are victims!!


Israeli ethnic cleansing is justified. Hitler’s ethnic cleansing is not justified!

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png5 days ago in reply to Phillilp M Volkert

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Please remember, the Muslims did not conspire to kill Jesus and for that offence you did not stop construction of synagogue in USA! However, most of you are venting out your blatant anti-Muslim prejudice and bigotry based on totally false and fabricated grounds and reasons!


Sure, Jesus won't be proud of you.

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Anonymous http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png16 hours ago in reply to Faruque Ahmed


You are a vile Jew hater yourself, Mr. Ahmed.

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Faruquqe Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png0 minutes ago in reply to Anonymous


I am not a Jew Hater. In fact the Jews hate everyone!


Israeli Holocaust in the occupied Palestine was conspired before Hitler’s one! Yet, the arrogant and deliberately ignorant Israelis and their supporters are insulting and abusing the questioner without providing any evidence whatsoever!!


I hope, any one of them will be able to answer me like a rational human being rather than raw sewerage of humanity.


Evidence 1 When Theodore Hertzl, the ideological founder of the Zionist movements in the 1890s, was asked what he proposed to do with the indigenous Palestinian population when his "state of the Jews" become a reality, he replied, "We will quietly spirit them across the boarder".
Source: Free America Now



Evidence 2 In 1923 Vladimir Jabotinsky, leading intellectual of the Zionist movement and father of the right wing of that movement,... wrote: "Zionist colonization must either stop, or else proceed regardless of the native population. Which means that it can proceed and develop only under the protection of a power that is independent of the native population - behind an The Iron Wall , which the native population cannot breach." First published in Russian under the title O Zheleznoi Stene in Rassvyet, 4 November 1923. Source: The Iron Wall



Evidence 3 Joseph Weitz, the head of the Jewish Agency's colonization department, confirmed this in his 1940 diary. "It must be clear", he wrote, "that there is no room for both people's together in this country … not one (Arab) village, not one tribe should be left". Source: Free America Now



Who Said These Awful Things? Jews or Muslims?

Evidence 1. "Nations will gather together to bring their homage to the people of God; the whole fortune of nations will pass into the hands of the Jewish people, they will march behind the Jewish people, in chains as captives, and will prostrate before it." - Isador Loeb, Le Probleme Juif.


Evidence 2. "In everything, we are destroyers--even in the instruments of destruction to which we turn for relief...We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers for ever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands." - Maurice Samuel, You Gentiles, pages 152, 155, and 147.


Evidence 3. "We Jews have spoiled the blood of all the races of Europe. Taken as a whole, everything is Jewdified. Our ideas animate everything. Our spirit reigns over the world. We are the Lords." - Dr. Kurt Munzer, The Way to Zion.


Evidence 7. "The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat, they want more".
... Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000

Evidence 8. "[The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs."
Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982.

Evidence 9. "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls."
Shimon Preses, Israeli Prime Minister (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

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mark http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png2 days ago

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Islam isn't a religion. Read the Quran, the hadith collections of Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, the biography of Muhammad by Ibn Ishaq, and you'll realize this to be the case.


It's not a religion because Muhammad was supposedly God's "last, true prophet", yet he had apostates killed. That doesn't make sense. A true "man of God" would bring a man back through love, not murder him for leaving the religion. That's what a cult leader does.


It's also not a religion because the Quran says Muhammad is "a beautiful pattern of conduct", but when you look at his life you see that Muhammad had sex with a child, owned slaves, bought and sold slaves, had poets killed for criticizing him, slaughtered unarmed people, beat his own wife, and in general, was a terrible, worthless human being.



I've compiled a list of arguments non-Muslims can use at "Islam outreach events", mosque debates, etc., at my website:


http://vitor-palmer.livejournal.com

If you don't want a mosque in your community, print those arguments out, distribute them, ask them of the "friendly tolerant" Muslim leader.


Islam is indefensible. Learn it, and you'll defeat it.

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png1 day ago

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In order to counter your attitude, please allow me to present these facts.

Do you call it pedophilia and abomination? In Islam and Christianity you won’t find these types of abomination.


"Rabbi Joseph said, 'Come and hear. A maiden aged 3 years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition”


Mishnah: A girl of the age of 3 years and a day may be betrothed, subject to her father's approval, by sexual intercourse.


"Harlot" (prostitute)?


A "Harlot" (prostitute) is designated in the Torah as any women who is not "a daughter of Israel" or who has sex with a man she is forbidden to marry. According to this interpretation, all non-Jewish women are considered "harlots" under the Jewish religious law.

Source: http://muslimvillage.com/forums/index.php?showt... for confirmation or reference and not for promotion of any one’s blog or web.


Even these ones!


...[in the event of sex between a Jewish man and a Gentile woman] the main punishment is inflicted on the Gentile woman ; she must be executed , even if she was raped by the Jew ." (from: Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years by Israel Shahak, p87)



Rabbis Teachings on sex with infants and animals: Jewish Teachings on sex with infants:

"A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. If he penetrates and the child is harmed then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister.
"The complete Hebrew text of this saying can be found in "Rabbi Joseph in Talmud: Bammidber raba and Jalkut"



Please debate the question with same enthusiasm as the anti-Muslim question above and do not hide behind any false wall. This is a challenge.



However, attacking Muslims with the “Lolita of Arabia” is a never ending Zionist ploy.

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Anonymous http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png16 hours ago in reply to Faruque Ahmed


Yes, yes, it says that in the Jewish book but the difference is that Jews don't PRACTICE those stone-aged rituals any more. they don't do animal sacrifice, they don't marry three year olds. YOU, on the other hand, I am sure, stick to those stone aged practices every day. So get over yourself.

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guest http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png1 day ago

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Faruque Ahmed made many valid statements and no one was able to present corroborative arguments against him!

Three cheers to Faruque.

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Anonymous http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png16 hours ago in reply to guest


Go for it, Mr. Guest. Sounds like you believe his vile anti-semitic crap.

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Faruque Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png25 minutes ago in reply to Anonymous


I forgive you because you are a captive American! However, please make sure you are not an anti-Semite and to assist you I am posting this item now.


Who Is a Semite?


Further to Do You Know Who Is a True Jew? and What is a Judeo-Christian culture?; can we establish who is a Semite?


Sem•ite (s m t ) KEY NOUN:



A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians.

A Jew.



Bible A descendant of Shem.


A group of people who falsely claim to be Jew and they may not have even 0.1% Semitic blood or mixed with hundreds of European bloods can not be a true Semite!


Anyway, under what law, moral or authority a Semite is superior to non-Semites?!


Source:
http://sites.google.com/site/crimesexposed/who-...

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Faruquqe Ahmed http://mediacdn.disqus.com/1055/images/themes/narcissus/moderator.png18 minutes ago in reply to Ilovefreespeech




Please do not hide behind the facade of racism and shameful anti-Semitism to cover up your blatant ignorance and prejudice against the real Semites, i.e. Arabs and Muslims!


Shame on you Americans! You are sending your own children to die for Israeli war crimes and genocide!!


Cheney: Iraq pullout would hurt Israel | JTA - Jewish & Israel News
http://www.jta.org/news/article/2007/03/25/1008...

Iraq: A War For Israel

http://www.ihr.org/news/040716_hollings.shtml


Illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq

http://www.cjd.org/paper/surlis.html

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